Friday, January 8, 2010

Revolucion!

by 13 Stoploss

Can't read the fine print?

10 comments:

Kyle S said...

I cannot recall where socialism has worked out thus far. They did work in all of the keywords: war, environment, racism, economy. I give it a D- for creativity.

13 Stoploss said...

Well, it has endured in Cuba and China and North Korea, but that doesn't mean it works or that its citizens would change it if give the chance.

Like I mentioned in the post below, they (socialists) are trying to bring people to their cause. The protests and rally's are about using those problems to broadcast their ideaologies. Sick.

Pattie Matheson said...

Thanks man, I couldn't see the small print :0

Change a few words and that was my college revolt -- check that, change one word - replace economy with war and you have my world back then. And hey, in addition to environmental education we also pushed for Zero Population Growth, ZPG. Look that one up.

I'm thinkin' we weren't radicals so much as we were enjoying radical behavior. Look ma, no rules! And aren't I a deep-thinking, educated person.....oh, and up yours!

Back then we called Cuba and China and North Korea communist nations. Guess its back to the books for me.

~P~

KathyB said...

I live in a very quiet state where campus protests are very rare. Any time anyone would demonstrate on the campus where I worked I had to smile.
Signs of life in a student body otherwise too busy to linger on campus :>)

Engagement of any kind can be hard to find.

Anonymous said...

Socialism works in Sweden, Norway, Finland, Denmark, France, Switzerland, etc. Most European countries, people are confusing Socialism and Communism.

13 Stoploss said...

Anon,

There is a distinct difference between northern European Socialism and the Marxist and Revolutionary Socialism advocated by these groups on campus. Would you like to expound on them, or are you just throwing that out there?

For me, it's "no thanks" to both.

Anonymous said...

European Socialism I love and would like to see take root here in the US. I am from Europe originally and would much prefer their system, which seems to work much better and serve the people in a much better way than the system here in the US.

Take Norway for example, arguably one of the most Socialist countries in Europe, yet the country has much better health-care, longer life expectancy, better standard of living, college is free, etc. Sweden is the same way, I really do not see a problem with this.

I have family and friends who live in Europe and have nothing but praise for the system in place and are perplexed at the sort of backwardness of the US system.

I believe however this issue goes further, one of the reasons why such a system works in Europe is due to culture, history, and the country's society in general.

As far as Marxists Socialism, yea... no thanks.

-Filip

13 Stoploss said...

Filip,

The countries you mentioned have much, much smaller populations. This matters.

But, I'm not in favor of enormous tax rates to fund everything you mentioned.

I don't think Socialist health-care is better. Sure, the coverage is better on paper, but I don't see how a similar system can function in the US due to the much larger population. Heck, the US military can barely take care of its soldiers and there are parallels between how the military runs health care and Euro-Soc HC. Long wait lines, inadequate time or care with the physician, and systematic medical prescription (motrin for everything). Canada touts their system, but there are plenty of grumblings around about the quality of the care.

I have no problem with paying for something, like education, where another will give or impart something they have, to better myself.

As for life expectancy, well, America is eating worse, eating more, working more, and working out less. No surprise there, especially considering the Nor-Euro cultural habits on food.

Just my .02.

Anonymous said...

I was substitue teaching in a middle school and during one classroom incident two boys looked at me and said that they were allowed their own opinon. I said that was true that they were allowed to have their own opinion, but that didn't mean that their opinion was correct. See above.

Grung_e_Gene said...

I'd like to know when America was this great anti-socialist Capitalist country? Was that when insular small families controlled steel, railroads, and oil companies and used violence and the government stooges to undercut competitors? Or was that when America had slaves? Or when a single entity was given control over the money supply? Or perhaps it was today when just anyone could start up a Northrop-Grumman Haliburton or Xe and receive no-bid government contracts?

America is run by a small cadre of people who view the other 99% of us as chattel to enrich and expand their power.