Monday, September 14, 2009

What Post 9/11 GI Bill?

by The Usual Suspect

My mountain of unexpected debt would like to know. Also, an important lesson learned:

If you tell the unemployment fucks that you're a full time student, they stop paying you. Which is fine, those are the rules. Generally, it's considered polite to tell the student though. We start to wonder after two weeks. So does the landlord.

11 comments:

Anonymous said...

So sorry! Interesting tidbit, only 30% of people eligible for aid actually receive it. z

Anonymous said...

If you don't mind, can you answer these questions--I may be able to help and give some advice. I have gone through the Voc Rehab program myself and have done the GI Bill and Post 9/11 GI Bill paperwork and phone calls for my husband, all of which we have had positive experiences with.

*When did you first apply for the new benefits?

*Did you use the online application, or print and mail application?

*Had you already been accepted to a 2 or 4 year institution prior to applying for the Post 9/11 GI Bill?

*How long had you been collecting unemployment? How many extensions does your state offer?

*Have you filled out the FAFSA?

*Have you applied for the Horatio Alger Scholarship?

*Have you looked into scholarships and grants through your school and applied for them?

*Do you qualify for school loans? If so, have you accepted them and what type of loans are they?

I could probably go on forever on what to do, but I'd rather not tell you things you may already know. So, answer them if you can and hopefully I can help a lot more.

-rsd

The Usual Suspect said...

*When did you first apply for the new benefits?

This summer.

*Did you use the online application, or print and mail application?

Online.

*Had you already been accepted to a 2 or 4 year institution prior to applying for the Post 9/11 GI Bill?

Yes.

*How long had you been collecting unemployment? How many extensions does your state offer?

Two months. They simply don't pay out to full-time students. When classes started, my pay was suspended.

*Have you filled out the FAFSA?

Indeed.

*Have you applied for the Horatio Alger Scholarship?

I did not. Tuition isn't a problem. Everything else is.

*Have you looked into scholarships and grants through your school and applied for them?

No. The Army said, "Hey, we're going to pay for all of your schooling, as long as its a public school." To that I said, "Ok! I will continue to serve this great organization to the end of my contract!"

Why the fuck would I worry about scholarships when Uncle Sam is the one who owes me? I'm not going to get punched in the face by Paul from The Wonder Years and then let Kevin Arnold take the heat for it. I'm going to beat Paul until him and Winnie Cooper have to use the same bathroom, ya dig?

*Do you qualify for school loans? If so, have you accepted them and what type of loans are they?

I have no idea. I never asked the Army to see if someone else could do MY job for me, so I don't see why they think it's ok.

By the way, none of these responses are meant as an attack on you or your intelligence. My Aunt Sandy didn't hug me enough.

Anonymous said...

My, it sounds like the old Suspect is back! z

13 Stoploss said...

I would never encourage anyone to be dishonest, but in California at least, if you are a full time student, you can still get paid. To do so, you must mark on the claim form that you are able to accept work. "Did you look for work?"

X.

Whether or not you are willing to do so, in this case, matters not.

I'm simply open another claim.

KathyB said...

Under the pre Iraq/Afghanistan Montgomery GI Bill a lot of vets thought that there ws just this big pot of money waiting for them to draw from as needed. Never is it that simple. Those vets received a monthly stipend based upon enrollment. Full time student, full stipend. Each month in school used up one of the 36 to 39 months of eligibility. Never mind what your tuition and expenses cost, flat rate applied.

Over time other things were added and eventually a new program started. National Guard and Reserves received a pittance.

The devil really is in the details and it isn't a question of whether you deserve a full ride or not. Of course you do. Reaity bites often and deep. Most college students work some on the side. They have to.

Good luck and thanks for the blog. I used to be one of those on the other side of the desk, a few years ago as you can tell. I worked for the school, not the VA, always considered myself a student advocate trying to help smooth the path. Met a lot of vets, watched from a different job as we cranked up this new generation. Thank you for your service and feed your heads, hearts, and souls in the halls of academe. It can be done.

Anonymous said...

Yea that happened to me but i called back and said that i was willing to quit school if a job came along that conflicted with school and they gave me unemployment. If i were you i would just open another claim.

themorethingschange... said...

Granny Crone weighing in here:

1. Happy to see your post =)

2. Don't lie, they'll gitcha and because you're not rich or famous they'll make an example of you.

3. Consider this: you've applied for your dream job, they do a computer search and find out you soaked the state for x-number of dollars. Bye-bye job.

4. It may take a long time for the truth to surface but it always does Ryan. It always does.

~P~

Anonymous said...

She has a point, dude. Cover your ass. Cover it, and be more suspicious next time. Don't do anything they can bust you for! z

Anonymous said...

Word has it your Aunt Sandy hadn't hugged you in a long time. I can always make up for lost time. Of course it will cost you. I'll put on a moo-moo, put my hair in curlers & overly bright pink lipstick, and run across the parking lot screaming, "There's my baby! I'm SOOOO proud of you, darlin'!" Yeah, that would be far more traumatic than not getting a hug at all wouldn't it?! Why don't you plan on coming out for a visit to DC? Not as much fun as Tokyo, but hell what is! You know government bureaucracy: ask for paperwork, submit the paperwork, explain the paperwork to 2 different people because the first person who gave you the paperwork is either no longer working there or lost it, re-submit paperwork, wait for an answer.... wait....wait for it... BINGO! Now you have the money. But keep all the receipts because when that person who you handed the orginal paperwork comes back they'll probably screw up the whole process again. Still think you're the bee's knees, man!

Love ya!
Aunt Sandy

Anonymous said...

Sandy, you crack me up. MAN, that's quite a visual, and I COULD SEE YOU DOING IT!!! Your poor kids...

Ryan, you earned it. Keep after 'em. I firmly believe they're setting people up to make them go away and give up. You've fought harder battles than this. The colleges here in Texas have a policy where they will hold off on tuition payments until the GI bill kicks in. So, come to Texas. :)
Lynda